doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 4:54 PM | Alan replied:

Dear Ms Christine,

Thank you for the links, and the bonuses, that was very kind and
generous of you. I have managed to successfully download all the
links.

I have watched brought to heel, and it is amazing. You look very
sexy and strict in your stockings and heels. I became a very
excited and aroused little dog watching it, I'm sure you would've
scolded me and sent me to my corner!

Once again thank you for all your help and kind assistance. I
hope you have a good weekend.

Will e mail soon. You can take pleasure in knowing you have a
very devoted little doggy panting for your attention in the UK.

Your obedient little puppy Alan


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 1:26 AM | Ms Christine replied:

Hi Alan,

I've just sent your download links for the books and videos, if
you don't already see them in your inbox then you may need to
check your rejected / bulk email folder. (or wherever your
system puts such mail)

sincerely,
Christine


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 1:12 AM | Alan replied:


Thank you Ms Christine,

Your little doggy is very excited


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 1:07 AM | Ms Christine replied:

Hi Alan,

Well done. That's a good doggy.

I'll set up the download links and email you.

If you get a problem email is better than text for me.

sincerely,
Christine



doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 12:58 AM | Alan replied:

Dear Ms Christine.

Thank you I have donated to the red cross, looking forward to
reading your wonderful books video

If I need any help will text you x

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Attachment:
Screen-shot of receipt for £100 donation to BritishRedCross


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 12:42 AM | Ms Christine replied:

Hi Alan,

Well I have a Kindle, (which is basically an Amazon Android device) and David has a Samsung (also Android). We've tested all downloads on both (and Apple simulators). So the good news for you is that once you have the download link you'll be able to download to both (all) devices.

For video the best format for Kindle is MP4 but it plays all major mobile formats as far as I can tell.

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 12:36 AM | Alan replied:

Dear Ms Christine,

Thank you for the information.

Yes I do have a Kindle, that would be good for the books, but I
guess the video would have to be sent to my android phone?

I will donate £100 to the red cross asap.

If you think a test is prudent then perhaps we should do it.

I hope I have got things correct


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 27, 2021 12:22 AM | Ms Christine replied:

Hello Alan,

Have you ever downloaded any book or video and saved it to your
device? And what is your device? Android or Apple? Kindle?

Have you read any books on your device and if so what format?
Do you have an ebook reader on your device?

We have the books as Text files for every device (or for ebook
readers as. .mobi file, or .epub)

The download link and password usually allows you to download
all three formats if you don't know which you want.

The way it usually works is we send you a link and a password
after purchase. The password usually expires after a few days to
give you time to download and save the content whether books,
videos, or software. (I can choose to make the login for a
longer period for the inexperienced).

By the way, as well as "Brought to Heel", my "Goddess" video
also opens with a bit of doggy treatment.

(sarcasm mode on)

Anybody would think I like making men be my doggy. :-)

Who, innocent little me?

(sarcasm mode off)

As to prices all 3 books comes to a total of $52.50
(approx £38)

The videos I mentioned are $60 each (£43 approx)

Do you need me to set up some kind of test download?

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 26, 2021 11:55 PM | Alan replied:

Dear Ms Christine,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

Yes Domina was an old UK magazine. I don't have the copies anymore, but your wonderful writing has stayed with me all these years.

Thank you, if you tell me how much the total will be, I will make a donation, probably to the red cross.

I would like to purchase the mistress manual, and the two on prick teasing. And I would love to purchase the video of brought to heel.

Being very much old school, how do down loads work? Do you send them to my phone? At the moment I don't have a laptop.

Of course you can use my e mail on the website, you can use the pseudonym Alan .

What a pity you already have a doggy, I would love to be on the end of your leash!


doggy loves bitchy teasing women

August 26, 2021 11:42 PM | Ms Christine replied:

Hi Alan,

Thanks for your email. I'd quite forgotten about Domina magazine
publishing my work. That was probably way back before the
internet. That was a UK based magazine I believe? Or did you see
it published elsewhere?

One doggy is enough for me to handle nowadays, but you might
enjoy my video of David being trained as my doggy. (Brought to
Heel). David says the sex scene on the bed with me in red
lingerie, training him to "sniff like a proper doggy", is one of
his favourite bits of all our videos.

I can arrange download links for all your purchases, but as
money orders are a problem for us I have a better suggestion for
you.

Just donate an equivalent amount to your purchases to a major
charity and send me an email within a day or two of making the
donation (ideally with some receipt/confirmation of the donated
amount and the charity concerned) and I'll set up free download
links for your chosen items.

As to charities I'm thinking that in these times of so many
major emergencies that need our aid, they vary from country to
country, and most countries have Red Cross/Crescent, Medecins
Sans Frontieres/Doctors Without Borders
or similar.

Sean Penn, the actor, has set up CORE to take action in Haiti
and elsewhere, and something like that is also good.

Below I have posted links to donate to United Nations aid
organisations.

Also, if you don't mind, I'd like to post your question and my
answer on the blog, if that would be acceptable to you.

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

Unicef (United Nations Children's Fund)

UNHCR - The UN Refugee Agency


my Goddess in the FemDom Society

May 18, 2021 2:19 AM | Slutty Celestina replied:

As a sub that is on the receiving end like the guy here to his
goddess, I love this no win situation.

Guy you are so lucky I wish I was you.

Does she ever let you French kiss her ass? My lady loves when I
French Kiss her ass and Kiss her ass all over and I love the
humiliation.


a Secret FemDom Society

May 16, 2021 4:59 AM | kuntsucker replied:

woke up by my lovely evil sadistic beautiful Goddess of orgasm
denial.....

https://u4ds.com/2021/05/my_goddess_in_the_femdom_socie.shtml


keeping sub interested after milking

September 25, 2020 6:12 PM | Mistress Chyna Vixxen replied:

it's so different for each individual sub, sometimes they
retreat out of shame or out fear of disappointing their
mistress. Milking them is done in so many brilliant ways,
mentally, physically and my personal favorite financially.

https://MySlink.app/mistresschynavixxen


training a sissy to deep throat

September 8, 2020 3:39 PM | Christine replied:

Angel,

you wrote:

>The search continues!

Good luck with your search. It might help if you mentioned your
location, you never know your luck.

Also, try getting some practice in using a dildo for deep
throating and a dildo gag for pleasing a Mistress. Find
something suitable to penetrate for practice like a melon
perhaps.

Once your neck and mouth muscles are thoroughly trained you
might find advertising those skills here will interest a
Dominant. It can't hurt to practice anyway.

sincerely, Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software. Now on your phone and mobile
devices.
http://www.mschristine.com/program.shtml


training a sissy to deep throat

September 8, 2020 12:11 AM | Angel replied:

I love to read stories of all these fortunate "sissys" that have
an understanding woman who encourage their boys to be (or play
the part for a period).

I have been dressing for so many years and I have
not been able to find a woman who truly accepts me for ME!

The search continues!

I'm very open and want to explore more of my feminine side. I am
fairly passable.


keeping sub interested after milking

April 30, 2020 4:38 PM | Al Mendoza replied:

If she's too bored or in a bad mood, after being face slapped,
at least 3 times back and forth, I must lick her feet, toes,
even when sweaty, before washing them, then masturbate into her
flipflop, havaiana's brand.

Then I must lick the inner sole to clean off my cum, after which
I get an otk flipflop spanking of 6 dozen.

She gives me another pair of face slaps back and forth and I'll
have to stand in the corner with her panties on my head smelling
her ass hole scent, for several minutes, twenty on average,
before I apologize and regain shy my humble composure and suck
her clit.


keeping sub interested after milking

January 6, 2020 3:57 PM | Ellen replied:

I find that the best way to keep my boy eager for sex is to keep
him locked up and not allow him any sexual release during the
week.

I let him have a squirt in the bath on Saturdays (his day off)
after I've urinated on him a few times.

Thanks to Christine for suggesting this in her videos and
software. Life has been such fun since I discovered I could do
this to him!

Weekdays, even after a hard day at work, he is always eager to
please me in the evenings, but I dismiss his pleading for
release after I've used his mouth, nose and face for my
pleasure

As I think Christine says in her manual, leave them wanting
more!


keeping sub interested after milking

November 21, 2019 3:40 PM | David replied:

Hello Judy,

Have you considered making him wear something that maintains his
knowledge of your control over him. Anything on his genitals
would do that. It doesn't even have to be something
sophisticated like a chastity belt.

So, for example, you could insist he wears a spiky penis corset

https://u4ds.com/2008/07/spiked_penis_corsets_and_devic.shtml

whenever he is at home. Maybe a simple cock ring or strap would
keep him thinking sexy thoughts.

Or perhaps tell him to wear a butt plug when he's in a
particular place where you may not be forefront of his mind. At
work perhaps?

Then when he is in your presence make him report on his
obedience to your instructions and punish any failures he may
own up to.

sincerely,
David

Download "Games People Play" by David at
http://www.u4ds.com/manuals


keeping sub interested after milking

November 18, 2019 10:29 AM | Judy replied:

He just loses interest very fast until I get him
there again.

I'm considering no orgasms at all and only allow
milking maybe once a month. And even that keep it
with anal only.


keeping sub interested after milking

November 13, 2019 1:10 PM | Morgan replied:

As a man, I must ask, when you say Milking, are you actually
allowing him to CUM, or are you Edging the Cum out, that is a
huge difference.

DO not allow him to CUM if you want to keep him interested. Edge
the Cum out and make him eat it.



keeping sub interested after milking

November 8, 2019 4:14 PM | Christine replied:

Hello Judy,

I probably need to know more to make suggestions that
specifically apply to you and your sub.

For example:- What do you mean by "retreats"? Do you mean he
becomes less submissive? Less obedient?

If that is the case then you may find that some of the ideas
suggested to Helen for her "surly" subby will work for you. See
the thread:-

letting my slave wank more?

Or do you mean he becomes less interested in sexual activity? Or
less interested in bdsm game play?

Also, what methods of milking are you using on him?

Perhaps those are not dominant in a specific way that he
craves?

Perhaps he would be a happier sub if his "spurts" were more
painful, spurting only during a caning for example"

What fetishes does he have? Once we know what makes a man tick,
what pushed his buttons it's a lot easier to think of ways to
manipulate him.

sincerely,
Christine

See Christine humilate David
https://www.mschristine.com/video.shtml


humbling question

November 8, 2019 3:08 PM | Christine replied:

Hello Miss Cindy,

you wrote:

>I get one ball through, it sometimes slips back so that when I
>start to tighten the humbler I find I've not got both trapped,
>and have to start over.The mood to play has then diminished

Yes, I totally understand the problem. Try putting 2" packing
tape around the top of his ball sack, or perhaps the lace from
one of his trainers, so that his balls are in a neat little
package that is much easier to handle while you manipulate them
into the humbler.

I find packing tape around the top of his ball sack is better to
retain more flesh and avoid some of it getting pinched. Adhesive
tape can avoid the over-tightening that can happen with laces.
You don't want to cut off the blood supply.

My lazy way to solve the fitting problem and consequent mood
loss is to order my sub hubby to put on the humbler in another
room and then report to me in that lovely slightly bent over
position that it forces him into.

It's quite easy for a male to fit a humbler to himself in front
of his own body, just a little loosely, so that he can then move
the humbler through his legs to the rear position before
reporting to you for any further tightening that you might
desire.

Equally, you may find it easier to fit to him yourself in that
position and move it between his legs yourself. That is also
quite a dominant thing to do.

I often have David put it on in front of me, and then turn
around so that his back is towards me. I then have the fun of
roughly pulling the humbler back between his legs myself and
forcing him to bend over before ordering him to kneel on the
floor.

Men also make quite a good footrest. when restrained by a
humbler, or if that is not comfy just order him to kneel in a
corner while you relax watching TV or reading a book.

I love spending an evening watching a movie while David is stood
facing the wall waiting and able to serve me at a click of my
fingers to top up my glass of wine. A naked male slightly bent
over in a servile position with his genitals pulled back and
down turning him into a virtual eunuch makes an amusing
emasculated servant.

Sometimes I even treat him to seeing me dressed in the sexy
lingerie I know he loves as I recline on the sofa in my negligee
and stockings. Then I let him stand with his back to the wall
and in that slightly bent over position he can lust over what he
can't have.

sincerely, Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software. Now on your phone and mobile
devices. Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.
http://www.mschristine.com/program.shtml


teaching hubby to take cock?

November 7, 2019 4:28 PM | Judy replied:

My male sub always retreats for few days after i milk him.....

keeping sub interested after milking


Chastity Belt Advice

August 4, 2019 6:52 PM | Christine replied:

Hello toy boy,

I've just noticed that it's going on a year since you asked for
a chastity device recommendation.

Because I don't actually use chastity devices in the way you
want to, I didn't give you a personal recommendation.

The devices I use are designed to make his genitals suffer for
my amusement.

For chastity enforcement, (or more precisely masturbation
control) I use the stick and carrot approach.

I thought that as we have so many chastity fans on the list,
someone would have replied to you by now. But, as nobody else
has suggested a device for you and your partner I'd suggest you
take a look at the other posts in:-

https://u4ds.com/chastity/devices/

where various devices come with positive reviews from DOMestic
users.

The most recent reviews are entitled "Dickcage", "Chastity
Heaven cages" and "CB6000" for example. But there are lots more
in that section of the blog.

sincerely,
Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software. Now on your phone and mobile
devices. Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.

http://www.mschristine.com/program.shtml


forniphilia, race play and sexual objectification of human furniture

March 15, 2019 10:24 PM | ramose replied:

Nice cane in the picture. What do you think about this travel crop at
http://www.naughty-angel.com ?


want hubby to serve my bull

October 15, 2018 12:29 AM | David replied:

Hello kymy,


You wrote:


>I sometimes won't let him be there as I serve my bull[s].


As you are the dominant in the relationship with your hubby,
then it's up to you whether you allow him to be present and
enjoy being cuckolded first hand.


Some submissives enjoy the idea that their Mistress is being
dominated by, or is serving, a dominant 'bull'.


I can enjoy that illusion, if that role-play is giving my
Mistress pleasure. But I like to know, in my heart, that in
reality my Mistress is really in control of the 'game'.


>he bitches and begs for all the details.


Which might suggest that your hubby really wants to enjoy being
cuckolded by you.


>I have made him clean me in front of my lovers.


That sounds like the kind of thing I'd love. For me, one of the
most important things is that I'm serving my Mistress, not her
lover.


If I'm made to lick up what came from his cock, then it's my
Mistress who is making me do it, not her "bull". So as long as
it's my Mistress instructing me to do the cleaning then it's
heaven for me.


I want to know that my Mistress is happy with the health and
safety of the 'bull'. And if she is happy for the 'bull' to have
made a mess, then I will enjoy being 'forced' to clean up.


>I want to take it further and totally humiliate him and make
>him fluff and clean their cocks for me.


The keywords there are "for me" - that's the bit that turns me
on. That it's for you. My Mistress is making me do this stuff
for her. She's enjoying it.


Once I know that she's getting off on it, then I can enjoy the
indignity of getting him ready for her.


>he talks a good game, but I think he'll panic when it all
>happens! lol!

I can't know the mind of your hubby, so for the purpose of this
discussion I'll just have to assume he's like me.


As long as he knows he can trust you to retain control, and not
hand over dominance to anyone else, and he has plenty of warning
that it's going to happen, he'll not be likely to panic.


Whenever I've been in a multi dominant situation, the thing I
fear most is that my Mistress will stop protecting me from other
folk who might try to take control.


Assuming that you do not want him to panic, then just make sure
he knows you are in control, and that your "bull" is only
allowed to use your hubby as long as you are enjoying it. Then
hubby will know he is being kept safe.


>I've been secretly fucking for about three months.


That's the bit that would make me worry that my Mistress might
no longer be interested in me, or that she might no longer care
more about me than her lover.


If my Mistress knows that I enjoy being a cuckold and that I
enjoy my suffering as I hear her telling me all the salacious
details of her encounters with her lovers, why would she keep it
a secret for three months?


Trust is in danger if this secret has been between us for three
months, unless we've already agreed that secret lovers is a
'game' she/we might enjoy.


>he's up for making him serve.


That's great, that should mean 3 willing participants, and lots
of fun for all.


>not only will I shock him with my latest lover.


I can't speak for your hubby, but that kind of shock is not a
turn on for me.


Knowing my Mistress has a lover, and that she is tormenting me
with it is sexy. Telling me she is going out on dates regularly
for 3 months would be a turn on, because she is telling me she
has a lover, and is 'sharing' that 'secrecy' with me for our
mutual pleasure.


That would be a scary and worrying turn on, but hopefully one
that would end well when the lover was revealed.


But the idea that my Mistress has a totally secret lover is just
too scary for me.


>but make him suck as well.


If my Mistress orders me to suck something (safe) because it
gives her pleasure, that's more than good enough for me. The
illusion of being 'forced' to suck cock is a turn on for many
submissives. So I'm going to love it as much as she does. But
not if it came as a complete shock.


sincerely,
David


Download "Games People Play" by David at
http://www.mschristine.com/manual.shtml


teaching hubby to take cock?

October 11, 2018 7:43 PM | kymy replied:


want hubby to serve my bull


cane me please Mistress Audrey

October 8, 2018 5:44 PM | David replied:

Hello Ms Helen and Ms Christine,


Ms Helen, you wrote that you'd like:


>me (and my slaveboy) to get that feeling of power over a
>longer period. I'm sure he'd like that as much as I would.


It's true that submissives like me, and presumably your slaveboy
love to feel totally in the power of our dominant.


Once my Mistress has made me admit that she has the right to use
corporal punishment to discipline me and humiliate me, then
anything else she obliges me to do or to suffer is done on the
basis that I have to obey or else more punishment might result.


This enables me to feel in her power whenever she asks anything
of me, but especially and even more so if what she asks is
humiliating like corner time, or onerous like making me wear
spikes on my penis. Often the latter follows the former in our
house.


I've no doubt that Christine's suggestion of "Corner Time" will
make your slaveboy feel more under control, and I guess you will
also get a power surge from observing your slave obeying.


I've written a few fantasies about being sent to the corner
which still need quite a bit of editing, so I'll try and post
them later for your amusement.


In the meantime, my bedtime idea below, may do more for your
slaveboy than it will do for you. Unless you love humiliating
your slaveboy as much as Christine seems to like humbling me.


Christine wrote:


>I just like to humiliate you


One of the things that makes me feel truly in your power is
hearing you say things like that when humiliating me. And
reading that you write things like that on DOMestic, especially
if I'm wearing either the blunt or sharp spikes at the time.


(instructions for making a home-made sharp spiky penis corset
are on the DOMestic web site)


Christine wrote:


>"Half an hour in the corner," I might order as I get into bed.
>I find this a useful way of making sure he is thinking of me
>as his boss long after I've dozed off.


Yes corner time does that for me.


As I'm stood in the corner of your bedroom under the TV, with my
trousers and pants around my ankles as you go through your
nightly ablutions I wonder why this amuses you so much. Even
though you've told me so often that you like to humiliate me, I
still wonder why?


As you hand me your knickers as you undress and tell me, "a
little treat for you wanker, sniff those before you put them in
the laundry basket, and think about what a real man like ____
would be doing" I realise you are just saying thinks like that
about men you've known to humiliate me more.


It may be I'll get off lightly with no further taunting, and
you'll be in bed and dozing off soon. Then after I think my half
hour is probably up and I suspect you are asleep I'll leave the
room quietly and try not to disturb you.


But if instead you say as you head to bed, "Spiky Time - the
sharp ones tonight" I realise that you made me sniff those
knickers just to ensure that I'd be erect and feel the spikes
digging in to my penis even more.


So, I'll get the cruel device out of the bedside table and start
to fumble to get it in place without too much pain. Then I'll
hear you say "You can go now", and I realise my fumbling is
irritating you, so I leave the room quickly to suffer the
process elsewhere.


Once the penis corset is in place I remember you saying "You can
go now", and how much that line always amuses you and that makes
me think of you as boss when you are asleep and the spiked penis
corset is digging in as remember your 'real men' and I think of
you enjoying yourself with '______', the one you mentioned.


I know the rules are that the penis corset stays on until I come
to bed, and that I must not come to bed unless I'm ready to
sleep without disturbing you. So until I'm allowed to remove the
spiked penis corset I'm going to be under your power over a much
longer period than it took for the brief caning you gave me
earlier in the day.


Whenever I have to wear the spikes it's humiliating, but even
more so when you hand me your knickers and cruelly say things
like "sniff those when the spikes dig in and think about what it
would be like to be a real man".


I know I'm not going to be able to resist your instruction to
inhale your intimate scents during the rest of the evening and
on into the early hours of the morning, and the spikes will dig
in even more.


I feel in your power then Christine, even though I know that
after you are asleep you will not get much benefit of feeling
powerful, but I imagine it amused you for a short period before
and after bedtime.


So, Ms. Helen that might work for you and your slaveboy?

sincerely,
David at Ms-Christine.com

Download "Prickteasing" by David at
https://www.u4ds.com/manuals


cane me please Mistress Audrey

October 3, 2018 12:59 PM | Christine replied:

Hi Helen,

There is one thing that makes me feel almost as powerful as
caning David , and that is Corner Time.

The first time I do it in any room, I tell him where to stand in
the room. When I'm in the living room at home the standard
position is facing the wall by the radiator, it's not actually a
corner, but it is a location that means I can see him at a
glance.

Typically I will just issue the instruction "Corner Time" and
David will have to go to his standard position in the room.

Then to ensure his total humiliation and heighten my feeling of
power I'll order "trousers and pants around your ankles". I like
to give the instruction every time rather than make it a
standing order, because I feel an "uplift" when saying it.

On most quiet days he'll spend most of the morning in the corner
while I read the papers, do my crossword, or play games on my
kindle.

Corner Time has the advantage of lasting as long as I want it
to, and the visible presence of the humiliated male in the room
until he is released from his corner means that I only have to
glance up from whatever I'm doing to feel the power surge you
refer to all over again.

David gets at least 15 minutes of corner time almost every day,
and he may get several doses if they are short ones because we
are busy.

An hour with him stood in the corner makes me feel he is mine to
do with as I wish. It's my favourite way to impose and maintain
discipline.

The first time I did it to him he thought I was upset with him
because he had done something wrong, and I loved the look on his
face when I said, "No, not at all. I just like to humiliate
you."

"Half an hour in the corner," I might order as I get into bed.
I find this a useful way of making sure he is thinking of me as
his boss long after I've dozed off.

sincerely, Christine

The Fem Dom Training Software. Now on your phone and mobile
devices. Advises on how best to train your husband/lover.
https://www.mschristine.com/program.shtml


cane me please Mistress Audrey

October 2, 2018 4:44 PM | Helen Ward replied:

It's interesting that you mention gerald wanting to experience
Audrey's power.

I used to feel powerful when I kept my subby chaste and denied
him permission to spurt, but since I let him spurt most days now
for health, I'm missing that feeling of power.

He still wears his chastity belt. especially when he is not with
me and I do now discipline him daily by making him pay for his
spurts as I think Christine suggested when he was being a bit
surly.

While I'm applying discipline, or even the toilet treatment you
recommended Christine, I of course get a power surge. But that
is of limited duration.

What techniques would you suggest for me (and my slaveboy) to
get that feeling of power over a longer period.

I'm sure he'd like that as much as I would. I'd guess gerald and
Audrey might like it too?

Thanks again.
Helen



cane me please Mistress Audrey

September 26, 2018 12:40 PM | David replied:

Hello Ms Audrey,

You wrote:

>(and David?)

Ms Audrey thanks for asking for my input. I'll try to be
helpful to you.

You also wrote:

>I found myself questioning his reasoning in going through
>with this, as it wasn't going to lead to getting me into bed
>with him, which was in the past, I thought, his motivation

Gerald mentions your "power" at least three times in his post,
and you are right that ostensibly "getting you into bed" is used
by some submissives as the reason for submission to "female
power".

This makes the power sexual power. Whereas I suspect you want to
move beyond that to some other reason for your power.

Gerald also wrote:

>Some other motivation for my being caned, or for your taking
>control, might be helpful to you. So if you have any reasons you
>would prefer to ascribe to your control and my punishment that
>would be good for me

What is clear is that he wants to feel he is submitting to your
power, and if sex is not to be the source of that power he is
also happy for it to be founded on something else.

At the moment he is not asking you to express the basis upon
which your power is being wielded, but I'd say it is only a
matter of time until he wants you to say why he has to submit to
you. I think he wants to accept any rational answer to that, as
long as it sounds like your answer.

Gerald's position in his recent post is "anything you say goes",
and he has previously expressed fantasies about you and "real
men".

So I think your answer could be as simple as "If you love me you
will do as I say" and "I like caning you, and you are not a real
man so you'll just have to take your punishment like a wimp."

But I think he is also asking you to take the lead and lay down
guidelines for him in many areas of your lives.

I think he is asking you to declare how much regular discipline
he should be required to receive, why he might be additionally
punished, what for, when, and for you to go further and lay down
the law on what he can say, do and feel in your intimate
relationship.

Ms Audrey, I think you can use this to create a non-sexual basis
for your dominance in whatever way you want, just as long as it
is seen to be what you want..

sincerely,
David at Ms-Christine.com

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http://www.mschristine.com/manual.shtml


cane me please Mistress Audrey

September 21, 2018 5:42 PM | Gerald replied:

My darling Audrey,

Thank you for caning me last month, it was wonderful to feel
your attention in that way again. I do not have the words to
adequately express my gratitude.

Ms. Susan thinks you would be happier if there was some form of
sexual reward involved for me. I can assure you that I do not
need that, but if it would make you happy that's fine.

Ms Christine thinks daily discipline from a "disciplinary wife"
is best for chaps like me. And while that would be lovely, I can
assure you that I do not think it fair on you to expect anything
like that.

I'm happy with whatever frequency makes you feel happy and
comfortable.

I am saddened that you felt pity for me when I was enjoying
profound fulfillment as a result of your gift to me Although if
you did find anything about my pathetic supine submission so
pitiful that you might want to enjoy it or mock it, that would
be fine too. Whatever works for you will be pleasing to me.

I should perhaps explain that my arousal during the caning is
not because caning is a sexual act for me. Being punished by you
is an expression of female power over me. Female power being
brought to bear upon me has always excited me. I used to enjoy
that power being expressed in the form of teasing and denial
when you enjoyed my sexual attentions in that way.

You should not feel any guilt, that this is no longer our way
of conducting ourselves, as it is not your responsibility
to provide me with the sexual pleasure you may feel I want.

Ms Christine says that she feels appreciation is evident if
david's erection is present at the end of his caning. I'm in
slight disagreement. Part of the pleasure is that it is supposed
to be painful, and an expression of power. So for that reason
I'd be emotionally fulfilled if you caned me until my erect
penis no longer offended, if that was truly your wish.

My erection starts to become evident at the moment of hearing
your instruction to prepare for a caning. It is evidence that
being under female control is profoundly fulfilling to me.
Except by being aroused, I am unable to express any pleasure
during the caning. I don't utter any words of appreciation for
any pain I may feel as it would feel more appropriate for me to
be a victim of female power and beg for it to stop.

I was also silent during the caning because I did not want to
say anything that would in any way distress you. I'd be happy to
beg and plead with you to stop. Or obey an instruction to thank
you for caning me, and ask for another, or respond in any way
you would find appropriate or acceptable. If you ordered me to
say I loved it, then I would do so, and I would love the fact
that you ordered it.

Obviously I'd love to be invited into your bed to give you
pleasure, but I think I know now that you do not wish me to
express that kind of desire. It would be my pleasure to express
that as a desire if you wished me to do so. Equally I'd be happy
to be caned for expressing such a desire if you would enjoy
that.

I can see that it is hard for you to understand why I find being
caned fulfilling, and it must be confusing that I still enjoy it
without it being part of sexual interaction between us.

It is not a sexual act, it is an expression of female power.
That power does provide me with intense arousal every time I
experience it, and it continues to arouse me as I remember your
control in the past and as I feel the effects of your cane
during several hours after the event.

It is not only the physical sensation that I find fulfilling. It
is the feeling of your power being exerted over me that is
fulfilling. The cane is just a very convenient way of expressing
how much power you have over me. Which is why, if I were to beg
for you to stop, I'd feel your power over me if you did not
immediately cease my punishment, but instead added extra strokes
for protesting.

The memory of your control and the expression of your power just
by virtue of the instruction to get into position lasts way
beyond the physical sensation.

Some other motivation for my being caned, or for your taking
control, might be helpful to you. So if you have any reasons you
would prefer to ascribe to your control and my punishment that
would be good for me. Or if you have anything you think I should
be punished for, that would be ok with me. I only want to make
it as acceptable to you as I can.

I now realise I should not have addressed you as Mistress when I
asked you to consider caning me. I did not have the right to ask
you to be my Mistress and I should not have signed myself as
your slave.

I'm also indebted to Christine and david for providing this
forum and allowing us to benefit from the advice offered by
members, while at the same time allowing a method of
communication between us.

This is such a complex and emotional issue for both of us that
I'm in agreement with you that discussing it here is probably
the best way to arrive at a mutual understanding without either
of us getting upset.

Paraphrasing only slightly what I said in my first post here.
Darling Audrey, I will always love you and would be more
grateful than I can express in words if you would cane me once
in a while. Only when and if the mood strikes you, and for
whatever reason, would be more than enough for me.

Your ever faithful and loving husband,
gerald.

ps. a personal thank you to david for answering my private email
and helping me to communicate my feelings better.


cane me please Mistress Audrey

September 9, 2018 12:33 PM | Christine replied:

Susan,

Good idea if Audrey doesn't mind getting involved with gerald's cock.

An alternative is to make him use deep heat on himself. He can be instructed to stand on his head, use deep heat, and spurt on his own face in your absence if that is your preference.

Paying for authorised spurts with daily discipline is a good way to go. Unauthorised wanking could be without spurting, and extra punishment if spurting without permission is even suspected.

strictly,
Christine
My manuals are at:-
https://www.mschristine.com/manual.shtml


cane me please Mistress Audrey

September 9, 2018 12:02 PM | Sue Me replied:

Audrey,

As you seem to think there should be some payoff for gerald in the form of sex, why not let him have a reward, or make him pay for a treat, with strokes of the cane.

Then you would be happier that gerald wasn't subjecting himself to pain without pleasure, and gerald would be getting what he wants twice over.

The other morning I woke up to be aware that my subby was a bit fidgety in the bed. I reached over and found his cock was hard. So I toyed with it for a while until he was begging for release. Then I offered him a spurt, but first he had to agree to pay for it with 50 strokes.

When he agreed I stopped toying with his cock and said, "Oh good. I'll try my new riding crop on your botty this afternoon and you can have your spurt afterwards. Or would you prefer to spurt now, and get the 50 strokes after that."

I love it, the ideas I pick up here on DOMestic. Of course he had no choice but to accept the 50 in the afternoon, rather than get his strokes after spurting, which meant going without release until then.

After he had taken his fifty bending over the ottoman at the end of the bed, I did what Christine did to david in her video. I had my subby stand on his head so I could get easy access to his cock to play with it.

He was able to look up my skirt as I slapped his cock, which I love doing before I jerk him off. I also tried what you did to gerald and used my washing up gloves to give my subby a handjob. The advantage of using rubber gloves is I can rub in some deep heat cream on his balls, without getting any on my hands.

Maybe it's an idea you could use on gerald. Say 50 of the cane for a handjob while looking up your skirt. An offer he won't refuse I'd say.

best to you and Christine,
Susan.


letting my slave wank more?

August 29, 2018 11:35 AM | David replied:

Hello,

Christine wrote:

>David should have also suggested the other thing I do quite
>regularly to him

Which reminds me. I'm not sure if Helen wants to be actively
involved in methods of modifying his pleasure from spurting, but
if so, there is also your post about "pegging" here:-

https://u4ds.com/2014/10/he_is_only_allowed_sexual_plea.shtml#c009780

If Helen doesn't have a strap on, or wants to just supervise or
regulate, she could adapt your idea and make him use a butt plug
on himself and restrict him to the same one finger relief.

Christine wrote in that post:

"I'll let him use the tip of one finger of his right hand to
stimulate his own "big clitoris" at the same time like a
'girlie'"

and...

"he has to catch all the mess in the palm of his right hand,
which means the stimulation stops at the very moment he starts
to spurt."

and

"If any of his mess lands anywhere but his hand, then a good
thrashing follows"

and

"he has to lick his hand clean and eat all his mess"

I can assure Helen that this process makes me feel very
submissive, so it may help her with keeping subby motivated when
permitted the extra wanking Helen wants to allow him.

submissively,
David

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https://www.mschristine.com/manual.shtml


cane me please Mistress Audrey

August 27, 2018 4:21 PM | Audrey replied:

Susan and Christine, (and David?)

Thanks for your input on this topic.

The news is that I did give Gerald a caning. He obviously didn't
give any resistance to the idea, or question my motives for
caning him.

In some ways it was pitiful to see him so willingly submit
himself to such an indignity, and without any reason for it.
Except of course that I was aware of his erection and arousal.

As I landed each stroke I found myself questioning his reasoning
in going through with this, as it wasn't going to lead to
getting me into bed with him, which was in the past, I thought,
his motivation.

Which still left me conflicted. He is aroused, and I'm not
offering anything. I'm feeling guilt and sympathy even pity.
Apart from the visible signs of Gerald's enjoyment, none of it
feels positive as it did back in the day when eventually one or
both of us got some sexual pleasure at the end of it.

Gerald was quiet and obedient, taking his punishment without
protest. I didn't know what to say while I did it without
becoming the Mistress again. If I become his Mistress, that
brings with it the idea of an eventual sexual climax, if not for
me, then at least for him.

I thought about saying something like Susan said. But the sight
of his bottom didn't do anything for me, so I didn't want to lie
and say I liked his striped red bottom. So I was silent too.
It ended with me telling him to pull up his pants as I left the
room.

Not sure when, how, or even if, I can do this again.

Your thoughts please, many thanks.
Audrey


cane me please Mistress Audrey

August 27, 2018 1:42 PM | Christine replied:

Hello Susan,

you wrote:

>when I decide to give him a spanking, he often protests
>that he's done nothing wrong.

Submissives often like to protest because they want to hear your
response. If he truly hasn't done anything wrong then you can
simply say...

"No, you've been a very good boy. I'm very pleased with your
behaviour. That's why I only give you a regular spanking. Bad
boys get much worse..."

>I just tell him that I like to see his bottom nicely reddened.
>But I wonder if that's enough for him.

I think that's likely to be perfect for him. They often like to
believe that they suffer because you enjoy it. Liking to see it
red is the kind of thing that means it's all about you, not
him.

If he wants more re-assurance that it's because you enjoy it,
he's likely to say something like... "But it's not fair."

When they say stuff like that it's usually because they want to
hear your response. It's emotionally satisfying to them to have
you assure them that they have to suffer for you.

In which case you could agree. "No, of course it's not fair.
It's for my pleasure, not yours. Don't you want to please me? Or
are you going to be a selfish boy today?"

The more unreasonable such a position seems, the more satisfying
it is for many submissives.

So that even if you disagree, "Of course it's fair. When we
women keep men's bottoms well reddened, you behave much better.
So it's obviously good for you. You don't want to be one of
those nasty macho louts who are not properly controlled by a
woman do you?"

That may also seem unreasonable and thus exciting. Just as when
you obfuscate, and neither agree nor disagree.

"Are you arguing and talking back to me? Perhaps you are not
such a good boy who should get a bit more than a spanking today?
We can use the ____ if your attitude needs adjustment."

(Insert appropriate escalation in the blank)

That's a good position to take if you want an excuse to give him
a bit extra.

Or, simply. "Are you forgetting who's the boss in this house?"

It doesn't really matter what position you like to take, the
important thing is it is your position at that moment.

Even if you change it the next day, at the time it's one he can
believe in and his fantasy has become reality.

Hopefully that means yours has too?

BTW I agree. A nice red bottom on a man looks much nicer.
That's what I told David yesterday. ;-)

sincerely, Christine

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cane me please Mistress Audrey

August 27, 2018 12:13 PM | Sue Me replied:

Christine,

I've been following your discussion with Audrey and given that he likes to think you've forced him, I wonder what justification you offer to david for having to accept daily discipline.

My house-husband is a very good boy, who hardly ever does anything to displease me, so I don't have anything to punish him for. So, when I decide to give him a spanking, he often protests that he's done nothing wrong.

I just tell him that I like to see his bottom nicely reddened. But I wonder if that's enough for him.

Thanks as usual,
Susan


cane me please Mistress Audrey

August 25, 2018 6:09 PM | Christine replied:

Hello Audrey,

you wrote:

>Flow charts and marriage guidance ideas all evident

Yes, my first job out of school, computer programming, still
shows in the way I tackle many issues. Marriage guidance?
Probably not so good at that, but you also wrote:-

>You certainly gave me a way to think through the issues for
>myself.

I'm glad. Perhaps that's how marriage guidance works?

>you may have interpreted my remark "how do I suddenly do
>something that I haven't done in ages" to mean suddenly
>becoming "Mistress" to Gerald again.

It was more along the lines of thinking that if you left it
weeks or months between giving him some much needed discipline,
without having established a new style, such as that of the
disciplinary wife, that you might need to at least appear to be
"The Mistress" to make it work for one or both of you.

>you thought that there would be a problem for Gerald in getting
>back in the mood to be my "Slave" and being receptive to
>punishment, hence sending him off with rules about
>masturbating.

Yes, that is something that some men find. They need to get into
a Mistress/slave kinky mindset before accepting the discipline
that they need, but that so often they love to hate. They want
to believe they are being forced.

The reason that many men indulge themselves in extreme FemDom
fantasising in the first place, is that they find it difficult
to accept that they actually long to be regularly disciplined or
caned by a strong woman.

So instead of asking her to be a disciplinary wife, he instead
suggests lots of kinky sex games.

I have found as we transitioned into post menopausal life that I
am now able to discipline David on a daily basis without any
need for ideas about kinky sex or force. So, I am now a
disciplinary wife, who has lots more knowledge of FemDom than
many. But I don't need to use it, I just tell him he's going to
get a caning, and he takes it without protest.

That FemDom knowledge is handy if I ever did want to use it. But
I no longer find I need or want to indulge in the kinkier styles
of behaviour often, and if I ever do so now, it is by way of a
treat for David. You'll see such play reflected in what David
writes, because he enjoys the fantasy.

>he doesn't need me to tell him to masturbate to get him in the
>mood for a caning. He clearly wants it too much for there to
>be any problem there.

Then I'd say that he would present no problem to you in adopting
whatever style suits you.

>If I give Gerald what he clearly still needs at an emotional
>level, I now know that it will also arouse him sexually. I'm
>not sure I know how to process his arousal.

How we process the arousal of another person depends on what we
think it represents.

If it represents a demand or expectation then it might be
perceived as negative.

If it represents appreciation without any expectation whatsoever
then it can be processed positively.

As Mae West would say....

"Is that a gun in your pocket or are you pleased to see me"

So, I like it when he's pleased to see me. I can now take an
erection as a compliment on the way I look without thinking he
is expecting anything. That's a great place to be for me. A real
benefit of the menopause.

Just as I like it when he's pleased to be bent over taking his
discipline. I know I don't have to do anything else, and if I
thrash him until he begs and an erection is still evident, then
I know I've not crossed any lines. He's just showing his
appreciation.

It's nice to know that a man is appreciative of his discipline .

>How do we detach the sex from the control.

I think it's already detached as much as it will ever be. It's
unrealistic to expect that something which fulfils a person, man
or woman, emotionally will not have some affect on how they feel
sexually. If that person is a man who is still potent or
sexually active, then that effect will cause visible arousal.

>how do I do something different to what we used to do so that
>neither of us will expect what we previously did?

Reading Gerald's post again suggests to me that he no longer
expects what you previously did. I think that it may be your own
feelings about what is expected of you, or that you expect of
yourself, that is the barrier to moving forward.

>I'm just in the process of deciding how best to do it and how
>often would work best

As often as you like. Gerald is probably going to be reading
this and thinking the more often the better. But he would also
now accept that it should not be more often than you feel you
want to do it.

>as Gerald obviously reads this blog, I'm thinking it may not be
>a good idea to announce my plan here?

I don't think we need to hear your plan. But I do think Gerald
needs to know what it is. I'm a great believer in communication
in relationships.

If your plan is to not have a plan, then it's best that Gerald
understands how that is going to work.

>If I find a way to process or ignore his arousal, it might be
>that I'd want to cane him most days?

I didn't want to at first. But as I came to the realisation that
David no longer expected anything of me, but simply greatly
appreciated whatever he got, then yes the positive circle
resumed so that now I do want to cane him most days.

It may seem daft, but now I'm irritated if life gets in the way
and events stop me remembering to give him at least one caning
in a day.

So if my aide memoir pops up on my phone, when lunch has gone on
too long with friends, I may just smile and click 'remind me
later'.

>it may be best not to have Gerald get any kind of reminder on
>his phone, and then when my app reminds me, I can safely decide
>whether to just ignore it, suggest he got some exercise, or
>decide to cane him.

Yes. Or just click 'remind me later'.

If I get to bedtime without caning David because we've been run
off our feet, and I finally remember it at the last minute as my
head hits the pillow, I may just use my memory of FemDom
techniques to give him something to fantasise over, as a treat.

I still love the brown packing tape I wrote about in "More fun
with packing tape" at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/ms_ch174.htm

So I've been known to call him in and say drowsily "Put the
packing tape on tonight, and you can ask me for a treat before
removing it tomorrow".

I've often adapted David's own fantasies to suit me over the
years. He had one where he got little treats in a lovely little
fictional story called "From Stiletto to Fluffy Slippers" at:-

http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic/david00.htm#slipper

It's complete nonsense about me forcing him to take severe
punishment. But I particularly enjoyed his pathetic acceptance
as he described it at the end of part two so I made my own
version of that into a reality.

This is how his packing tape came off one afternoon.....

"Please may I remove the packing tape and have a little treat
Ma'am?"

"Yes. Take it off now. I want you in position on the bed after
my shower for a caning. You can have a little treat after that."

I came out of the shower, and got dressed in the bedroom as I
watched him to make sure he wasn't peeking.

"Are we ready wanker?"

"Yes Ma'am, thank you Ma'am."

He was enthusiastically thanking his wife for disciplining and
punishing him because he hoped for a little treat. What a
pathetic wimp he wants to feel he is!

Ten with the cane went much as usual, He was accustomed to
those. I didn't ask him to count them.

"Treat time. Would you like to see me in stockings wanker?"

"Oh yes please Ma'am."

His eagerness was indeed pathetic. A rare treat indeed.

"It will cost you another thirty.... Will you pay that?"

"Oh yes Ma'am please Ma'am. I'd love to give you thirty for such
a wonderful privilege Ma'am."

So, he had thirty more and this time he counted them for me as I
ordered.

"OK wimp. Here it is, have a look at me you pathetic little man.
Turn your head."

He did so, and to his surprise I was there without a skirt. His
words now from his story.....

That delicious little mound of venus covered in silky panties
above dark tan stockings was in plain view. She had been like
that for how long? I could have had my treat without asking for
one, just by turning my head.

Back to reality.....

"Would you like to go to the garage for a wank now?"

"Yes please Ma'am. But can I look at you for just a little
longer please."

"OK but I will have to cane you while you look. Treats have a
price."

"Yes Ma'am, thank you Ma'am."

I took up the thin cane, as I'm not that mean ;-)

"No need to count, but you can beg me to stop whenever you
like."

I continued for maybe thirty more strokes until it became clear
he wasn't going to beg any time soon. He was probably enjoying
the combination of thin cane and ogling me too much to want it
to stop.

"Enjoying your treat."

"Oh yes Ma'am thank you Ma'am."

"Have a good long look, it's going to cost you ten strokes of
the thick cane if you want to spurt down in the garage as you
remember this treat. Is it worth another ten with the thick
cane?"

"Oh yes Ma'am, it is worth it, thank you Ma'am."

"Very well then, don't take your eyes off me while you pay for
the privilege."

Back to his words from the story......

And I did not, and they were the loveliest ten strokes I've ever
taken. Painful, but lovely. Can you believe it? I was in heaven
as my wife caned my backside.

Back to reality....

"Treat over now. Go and toss off..."

"Thank you Ma'am" he uttered as he dove down to the floor and
kissed my feet.

"Enough now.... I know you are grateful, and so you should be,
now go."

He got up and scuttled away.

I removed the stockings and put on a thin dress more suitable
for the heat of the afternoon.

When he returned to the living room after his nasty spurt in the
garage. I asked him "Is your bottom sore."

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Good. Was it worth it?"

"Yes, Ma'am."

"Are you sure?"

"Oh Yes, Ma'am, I'm sure it was worth it Ma'am. Thank you
Ma'am."

I laughed, "You are so much easier to control nowadays."

sincerely,
Christine at Ms-Christine.com

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http://u4ds.com/password


cane me please Mistress Audrey

August 24, 2018 10:49 AM | Audrey replied:

Hello Christine,

Thanks for your clever plan. Probably more than I will actually
need, but I appreciate the way you tried to cover all the bases
for both of us. Flow charts and marriage guidance ideas all
evident in one post?

I think that you may have interpreted my remark "how do I
suddenly do something that I haven't done in ages" to mean
suddenly becoming "Mistress" to Gerald again. And I think you
thought that there would be a problem for Gerald in getting back
in the mood to be my "Slave" and being receptive to punishment,
hence sending him off with rules about masturbating.

I don't think there is any problem for Gerald, in becoming slave
again, and seeing me as his mistress. Quite the opposite. And
I've no doubt he doesn't need me to tell him to masturbate to
get him in the mood for a caning. He clearly wants it too much
for there to be any problem there.

The problem would arise when I start feeling he was thinking of
me as "Mistress Audrey". His "Mistress" is not coming back.
Mistress Audrey was mostly a sexual role play, which fulfilled
both of us with sexual pleasure and gave me a level of control I
enjoyed. Sexual pleasure had an emotional role in our
relationship which is now gone for me.

If I give Gerald what he clearly still needs at an emotional
level, I now know that it will also arouse him sexually. I'm not
sure I know how to process his arousal. How do we detach the sex
from the control. I wonder, how do I do something different to
what we used to do so that neither of us will expect what we
previously did?

Anyway, I know he needs me to cane him. I'm just in the process
of deciding how best to do it and how often would work best.
And as Gerald obviously reads this blog, I'm thinking it may not
be a good idea to announce my plan here?

You certainly gave me a way to think through the issues for
myself. I see why your plan had Gerald leaving to do some
exercise before my reminder occurred, and yes you are right, it
wouldn't work if an audible alarm announced to both me and
Gerald that I might be considering giving him some punishment.

That would create disappointment in Gerald if I didn't cane him,
and create stress for me, in that I'd feel I had to. However, I
do have an app that gives me a reminder, and I can set it to not
emit any sounds.

So, I could do as you do, and get a daily reminder, and just
ignore it if it's not convenient. I think a reminder at longer
intervals than every day or two might create a situation where I
never got round to doing anything at all. If I find a way to
process or ignore his arousal, it might be that I'd want to cane
him most days?

The anagram was lovely. Sending Gerald for regular exercise was
inspired. Because we do have a couple of machines, now back in
their original boxes in the garage. We've got a treadmill and a
rowing machine. We got out of the habit of using those toys, and
I needed the box room for guests, so they've been buried at the
back of the garage for years.

So I'm thinking it may be best not to have Gerald get any kind
of reminder on his phone, and then when my app reminds me, I can
safely decide whether to just ignore it, suggest he got some
exercise, or decide to cane him.

Many thanks once again,
Audrey



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